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Fred Dawson - 05:15 am PST - Nov 5, 1999
Diploney--Insincere words of respect and friendship spoken by politicians and world leaders of one another.

Here is the incident. Now is it fair to expect a presidential candidate to know the names of the rulers of countries in the news and to have a good grasp of what's happening there? Or...?

Here's what BartCop has to say about it:

These days, the president has so much information and so many advisors it would be hard for even a son-of-a-butch to do too much damage.

Butt,

butt,

butt, you just know if they'd asked Clinton those same four questions,

Clinton would've given their names, their wives' names, their children's names,

he'd ask if Lee Suk Toe had recovered from his sprained ankle, he'd ask if Muhhul Eh-Ujah's mother's gall-bladder operation was successful,

he'd recall that Abbe Con Dabbe could never snag a cab in Cairo.

That's why Clinton is the best we've ever seen. (Well, that, and the economy, the crime rate, teen pregnancy, interest rates, etc etc etc)

ha ha

I saw a mini-Clinton interview on Fox News tonight. Some ditto-monkey tried to put Clinton in a box.

ha ha

Bill Clinton can answer ambush questions so much better than Lanny Davis, James Carville, Paul Begala, BartCop and Bob Dylan combined.

Sidebar: Have you ever seen the interview, must be from 1965 or so, Bob Dylan was just getting noticed and he held a press conference. Some ditto-monkey reporter asked Bob Dylan, on camera, "How many poets are there like you in America?"

Dylan thought for a second, and asked, "How many like me?"

The reporter shouted, "Yeah."

Dylan looked up in the air to the left, and he thought for a second and he said, "One hundred and sixty two."

ha ha

Go, Bob Dylan!! Fuck the Press!

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I know how I would have answered the questions if I'd been in Bush's place: "I don't know now but if I'm president when these or any other countries are exploding A-bombs, having coups, or are accused of terrorism, you can bet I'll find out all I can about their leaders and their countries' backgrounds before I go make critical decisions."
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"I don't know now but if I'm president when these or any other countries are exploding A-bombs, having coups, or are accused of terrorism, you can bet I'll find out all I can about their leaders and their countries' backgrounds before I go make critical decisions."

If I have time..........

Bush isn't qualified for the job.
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Cheap shot, lefties...kudos. Helps, just a little bitty bitty bit to distract from the Alpha Gore business.

Be careful overplaying the hand, though--remember Hatfield.
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TLB-in-MN - 06:00 am PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #5 of 345

So Klepper, can you tell us if Shrubya has a foreign policy?

Please explain for us why he gets flustered under the viciously tough questioning of sixth-graders, while Bill Clinton and Al Gore can go toe-to-toe with the heads of factions that have been at war for centuries.

We're waaaaaiting....
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While we wait for Klepper to tell us about Dubya's foreign policy (the only known element of which, as reported last month in the WSJ, being a willingness, with Chris (Cox Report) Cox's blessing, to RELAX controls on high-tech exports to China), here's some links to scan - and another test Dubya probably would flunk.

See <> for the scoop on people so scary, Cthulhu himself would get the wind put up him just THINKING about them.

And while you're at it, take this fun quiz:

<members.aol.com/fszamazon/test.htm>
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He is qualified for them. Shrub is "PERFECT" for whackos. The number one Hypocrite in the country. Failures and short-comings a plenty. A failed education, a failed personal life, drugs & booze, if it moves - it is executed, but his stupidity is under-whelming - and they love that - they can identify with it - he is perfect for them -

He ain't got much - but he's got his Daddy's name.
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Wasn't it James Carville who said that the closest G.W. Bush has ever come to foreign policy is when he bellied up to a bar in Laredo and ordered a pitcher of margaritas? How true...
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I just went to a Bob Dylan concert, and in the last couple of days have been re-reading a great bio of him called "No Direction Home." He truly was (and probably still is) great at giving clueless reporters a hard time. There is a scene in the documentary "Don't Look Back" where some guy from Time or Newsweek is asking him questions. Dylan just goes for the jugular, telling the guy that Time and Newsweek are basically full of crap and why don't they tell the truth. I can't recall the exact words, but it is really a hoot and definitely worth checking out.
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C.B. Hagman - 07:12 am PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #10 of 345
Actually, when you get right down to it, Bob Jones University and John Ashcroft have shown greater hostility to Catholicism than either James Hormel or the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence have.

You know, while this doesn't nearly measure up to Bob Dylan, the whole George W. Bush fails foreign policy quiz has me thinking of a recent hit by Smash Mouth. It has the following lyric:

"Somebody once told me the world was going to roll me/I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed."

Yes, yes, I know foreign policy is confusing, that our media doesn't cover it extensively enough (To get the international news, I used to watch the Journal and the National on Canadian TV while I was in Buffalo), and that GWB has been too busy running Texas. However, if you're applying for the highest executive office in the land, to be the leader of the free world, and all that fine stuff, you'd better be on the ball!
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Here is Clinton's response, in which he does not take a cheap shot at g dumbya, as he was invited to do. Glad we have a President who can be Presidential even if the leading Repug money monger cannot:

Clinton, in the interview aboard Air Force One as he flew to Arkansas, told ABC: "I think as a presidential candidate for the main trouble spots of the world, he should and probably will pick up those (names).''

"But the most important thing is do you have a clear idea of what the world should look like and what America's policies ought to be in those areas and so that's what I would say,'' Clinton added.

<www.foxnews.com/js_index.sml?content=/news/national/1105/d_rt_1105_31.sml>
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Virtual Fantasy Sharing:

Would it not have been delicious to be present as a fly on the wall of each of the Presidential candidates campaign offices last night as it dawned on each of the "smart guys" that they too did not know any or most of the answers to the quiz and wondered who in their organization did know the correct answer??

And the panic of whether they could get the correct data to their candidate before some smartass reporter got to him?? HeHeHeHe

I'll bet the search engines have done yeoman duty on the questions about Chechnya, Taiwan, Pakistan and India since last night, neh?

Probably only Gore and PukeCannon could have come up with correct data before being briefed, but I would dearly have loved to hear Bradley deal with that set of questions in place of g dumbya. Would have been much as Clinton stated in his response, IMO.
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I can't imagine Stupid Shrub preparing for debaits - O.K. Gorge, Alabama, Alaska and Arkansas these are states of the United States - Albania is a country in S.E. Europe - and there is no "ese" when speaking of the Albanians. Shrub getting testy and confused, head hurting - what is this 50 questions, how many damn letters are there in the alpha thing - We think there are over 20 letters in that alpha thing Gorge - and ya gotta do this or figure out a way to sneak out of the debates - give me the phone; Hello Daddy!
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JosieJ - 07:56 am PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #14 of 345
Enough alcohol will raise the Bonehead Quotient in just about any group of people. (Courtesy of Christine Edgar)

Another Link

I'm not gonna fault Bush for not knowing to begin with, just for failing to study up. India and Pakistan are saber-rattling with nukes; India elects a new gov't and Pakistan has a coup and he doesn't know the main players?

You just know that no other candidate would have been able to get away with Bush's lame answers without a severe drubbing (which they would deserve).
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Shrub said earlier; I don't know much about culture, referring to Books, Plays and the Ballet, but I will hire a culture expert to advise me. Who's he gonna hire Rush Limaugh. If Dan Quayle said something like that, the media slugs would have had a field day.
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Shrub said earlier; I don't know much about culture, referring to Books, Plays and the Ballet, but I will hire a culture expert to advise me. Who's he gonna hire -- Rush Limbaugh? If Dan Quayle said something like that, the media slugs would have had a field day.

No, no, no, Jim. My close personal friend Karl Rove tells me that Bill Bennett and Laura Schlessinger are on tap to advise on matters cultural; Rush Limbaugh will assist in directing foreign policy.
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Isn't it odd that the interview was so short, only four questions. Or is it that, the only portion of the interview that the biased liberal press could jump on was those four questions, so that is all that they reported from the interview.
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I feel relieved and safe. Of course I'm moving to Lithuania - a place none of them even knows exists.
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From one maroon to another - how many questions do you think Stupid could answer - if there were 10 questions, he would have gone 1 for 10.
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Ferguson Foont - 08:38 am PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #20 of 345
Republicans whine and Republicans bitch: "Our rich are too poor, and our poor are too rich!"

Jim Coil, I believe that you perhaps should reconsider emigrating to Lithuania. I mean, don't you agree with George W. Bush that it might be better to leave Lithuania to the Lithuanites?

George W. Bush will duck all debates, of this I am confident. He HAS to, because if his cluelessness is revealed to a wider public his candidacy is, for all intents and purposes, over no matter how much money he throws at it.

During the primaries he might get away for awhile with totally lame excuses for avoiding the public exposure of his ignorance that would certainly result from a debate, like wishing to watch while his wife receives some trivial accolade. His handlers will have to be more clever if he becomes the Republican nominee, however.

What I predict they will do to avoid the League of Women Voters sponsored debates will be to make outrageous demands on the organizers, like the privilege of pre-screening, or perhaps even dictating, the questions and/or the right to hand-pick the entire audience. When these demands are refused the Bush Leaguers will then claim that it is Al Gore who is ducking the debates by his unreasonable refusal to concede these points.

And people like Klepto and Mad Gregor will buy it.
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Isn't it odd that the interview was so short, only four questions. Or is it that, the only portion of the interview that the biased liberal press could jump on was those four questions, so that is all that they reported from the interview.

Was the interview in which Bill Clinton said "I never inhaled" a one-question interview, Ronnie Mac? Or is it that the only portion of the interview that the biased conservative press could jump on was that one question, so that is all that they reported from the interview?
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The point is G. Dumbya is asking the American electorate to put him in charge of our foreign policy.

The reporter asked about those four areas because they are today's pre-eminent hot spots in the world. Therefore, major concerns for our foreign policy.

I couldn't have answered the questions but then I'm not asking the citizenry to put me in charge of such concerns.

And if Dumbya is elected, who will be charge of such concerns? That worries me no end.

EG
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It still goes back to the professional preparation of planning to run for President - and just about every candidate in both parties has done something constructive to prepare - not the least of which is international travel - all the serious candidates visit foreign countries for educational purposes - except Shrub, trying to crash take a course on common sense now - visited one little cafe, just a little south of the border (song). The man is too stupid to be President - but he is bright enough to be guvanor of Texass.
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TLB-in-MN - 10:28 am PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #24 of 345

Once again, Fergy gets it right on the money:

George W. Bush will duck all debates, of this I am confident. He HAS to, because if his cluelessness is revealed to a wider public his candidacy is, for all intents and purposes, over no matter how much money he throws at it.

When even grade-school kids throw him for a loop, you KNOW he's in trouble.

Meanwhile, Big Al goes and teaches - what else? - a CIVICS class for a day, and the kids LOVE him.

Fergy, I'd bet money that Big Al could correctly identify the seven classical logical fallacies.

What I predict they will do to avoid the League of Women Voters sponsored debates will be to make outrageous demands on the organizers, like the privilege of pre-screening, or perhaps even dictating, the questions and/or the right to hand-pick the entire audience. When these demands are refused the Bush Leaguers will then claim that it is Al Gore who is ducking the debates by his unreasonable refusal to concede these points.

Mark these words, everyone.

Revisit them in a few months, and see if Shrub's handlers didn't try to do exactly that.

My God, inbred strychnine-drinking snake handlers have more knowledge of the world than George W. Bush.

And people like Klepto and Mad Gregor will buy it.

Of course.
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Steve M.

"Was the interview in which Bill Clinton said "I never inhaled" a one-question interview, Ronnie Mac?"

I believe that the "I never inhaled" answer was given in a televised interview that covered many subjects. The answer was jumped on because it was such an obvious lie. The public, however, had the benefit of seeing the whole interview, not just that one question.

Ferguson, you seem to be off to a rather mean start today. Unemployment check late again?
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The Reporter was known for asking questions like this....GW should have been prepared....Somebody dropped the ball.....

But then again he has so much money, maybe he thinks he can just buy his way in.
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Here's a good quote from Jamie Rubin, the State Department spokesman. The press corps were laughing and asking him to update us all on the heads of state:

"But I think it's all-important for all of us to carry our cheat sheets around, lest someone ask unfair questions about every potential prime minister and president throughout the world."

LOL for the press corps at State.
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Food Stamp - 11:27 am PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #28 of 345
Okay, then.

I watched the ambush interview of Bush by the Democrat reporter.

What impressed me was that the Bush people knew this reporter was a staunch left-winger and has a reputation for unethical ambush interviews of Republicans. They sent Bush in anyway knowing what would happen. I can only wonder if it is their way of giving him some "trial by fire".

None of the political talking heads (left or right) were able to answer the same questions on television this morning. Neither Bill Clinton nor anyone in his administration asked on TV was able to answer the questions (depth varied by foreign experience). Bush could have been a little more tactful, though. I felt like he revealed a kind of mean streak by enjoying the snapping at a "little" man.

I consider myself a middleperson, politically. I like some Republican stances and policies, but I think the Republicans could be characterized as a cross between Howdy Doody and Mr. Rogers, with one foot still stuck in the mud of the 50's. I mostly like Democratic stances and polices, but dislike the pervasive: "Leave my kids alone, they can do anything they want. By the way, who's going to pay for these kids anyway?" I also think Clinton is a liar and a cheater who didn't have the ethics to resign (...after which the Democrats should have taken out their own trash).

So, from that stance, the feeling that rose in me while watching the ambush interview was that the left-wingers were already, a year away from the election, starting the pouting, crybaby stuff we saw from the Republicans after Clinton was elected and then said, "my fingers were crossed behind my back."

I think it is unseemly for the left-wingers to enlist these obvious ambush tactics. We know Americans don't like cheat attacks and piling on (Clinton impeachment). I think the Democrats should stay on the high road they took during the Clinton impeachment. It worked very well for them and impressed America. Shooting from the gutter will be recognized as exactly that.
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Food Stamp 11/5/99 11:27am

Pardon me? Is this what they did on camera?

None of the political talking heads (left or right) were able to answer the same questions on television this morning.

If that is what they projected it was a total setup. By the time anyone went on camera they had carefully reviewed the answers to each of those questions and had them all avaialble on computer or teleprompter.

First thing I did after reading it this morning was go to MetaCrawler and get a nice little blurb about each of the four. So did every journalist, staff person and clerk in the communications business, who were remotely involved.

What you saw (if you saw it) was spin, pure and simple.
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CNN played the interview big this morning. I could hardly believe my eyes that the media would show negative coverage of GW, who thus far they've treated with kid gloves.

I know the interviewer has a reputation as a tough political questioner, but where did anyone read that he's a left-winger. From what I've read, he can deal it out to both sides.

I'm not a cracker jack on foreign policy (too busy reading about domestic politics recently), but even I knew more than GW about Pakistan. Where has he been for the last month? Locked in a closet with no TV or radio? The military overthrow was a big news story; and GW didn't even seen to know that the General came to power via a military coup, not a free election. The same is true with India. Has he failed to notice that in the last year both India and Pakistan have tested nuclear weapons; that they are already fighting a war over Kashmir? That the newly elected prime minister, was re-elected, so he's been in power for some time, but this election was particularly important because the Hindus gained a majority? Sheeesh!!! And this guy wants me to believe he's presidential material???? Give me a break!!

I'm quite sure Clinton could have answered the four questions correctly, as could Gore. They're both known as policy wonks. Maybe being a wonk isn't so bad in a 'leader of the free world.'
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Muel - 12:15 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #31 of 345
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.... unless you're a masochist.

I'm surprised nobody's commented on this, which reveals that utter lack of priorities or substance by conservatives:

(from kl Regan):

Cheap shot, lefties...kudos. Helps, just a little bitty bitty bit to distract from the Alpha Gore business.

So, we should be more concerned with whether a candidate is an "alpha" or "beta" male, or which image he projects, than with whether he has knowledge of world leaders and issues?

ROFLMFAO!!!
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Oh, let me answer myself before she does:

"Muel, if you can't post anything intelligent, at least post something interesting."
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More whacko comedy from Food Stamp - buy brain food with those food stamps instead of junk food -

"unethical ambush interviews" that's a hoot from a "middle roader", up next; Starr is a decent nice guy and not a porn pervert.

Lest we forget, a 5th grader ambushed Stupid with a simple question.

The man is unarmed - no ambush required.
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His advisors should have prepped him....maybe they tried, but this is an old device, used in election after election, and GWB should have known more.
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A most embarrassing moment for Shrub. He could have finessed himself out of this in any number of ways--skipping the names and outlining the respective scenarios-- but he treated it like a quiz, and just kept coming back for more punishment.

Then he endorses the military takeover in Pakistan.

But he really killed himself when he asked the interviewer if he could name the foreign minister of Mexico.

"No, but I'm not running for President."

Ouch, that one hurt. But when you run around the country bragging about all the C's you got in school, expect to be scorched from time to time.
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TLB-in-MN - 01:05 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #36 of 345

Speaking of his "C"s... here's what TJ Walker (of <www.tjwalker.com>) had to say about them:

I now feel sorry for George W. Bush, for he is truly a victim of an ill conceived, "liberal" attempt at social engineering. Thanks to the New Yorker, we now know that Bush was admitted to Yale University with a mere 1200 on his SATs, an impossibility for any high school student who isn't subjected to some patronizing affirmative action scheme. We also know that he got into the Harvard Business School with a "C" average in college. That's not affirmative action, that's more like "someone must have had nude photos of the Dean with farm animals" in order for Bush to been admitted to a program that routinely denies admission to thousands of straight "A" students per year.

The problem with affirmative action, as its conservative opponents have told us and I know finally understand, is that it sets up unreasonable expectations for everyone involved. Imagine, if you were a Texas oil millionaire in the early 1970's and a man from a good family with degrees from Yale and the Harvard Business School asked you to invest millions in a business. Of course you would assume he was bright enough to know how to make money. Bush did this repeatedly, losing millions every time for his investors.

This was so unfair to Bush, who has been given unreasonable career expectations given his aptitude. If it weren't for the evil, socialistic affirmative action program that placed Bush in a world he should have never been, he could have thrived.

Given Bush's average aptitude and winning personality he could have gone to Texas A&M University and possibly graduated with a B or B+ average. Then, he could have gone onto a successful career as a fertilizer salesman. Instead, he was unwittingly forced into a series of oil schemes that were far beyond his talents, all of which lost fortunes.

Bush was not the only victim here. These Texas millionaires were misled. And, as is the case of so many liberal do-gooder schemes, the unintended consequences were even more damaging to society.

These Texas fat cats now likely look at all white men with greater scrutiny and even cynicism. Even white men like me must pay for the crimes committed by the relatively few, like Bush, who have placed in positions far above their abilities.

Bush's numerous financial failures obviously took a toll on his self-esteem. Now we know the real reason he drank himself silly until his 40th birthday; he knew he was a fraud.

No wonder Bush refuses to debate his Republican opponents. He is consumed with self-doubt and doesn't want to expose himself as the meritless, affirmative action case he knows himself to be.

How many more times can he use "is" in a sentence that needs an "are" before even his own daughters laugh at him at the dinner table? Society owes Bush a huge apology for forcing him into a life that he was not meant for.

Dear George, we are sorry. We realize our mistake. You are now free to quit the presidential race, resign your governorship and take that sales job at Archer Daniels Midland. Good luck.

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Here's what Shrub's foreign-policy advisors were probably telling him today.
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Yeah, I loved the part about whether the reporter knew who the Foreign Minister of Mexico was. I bet Dubya was thinking, "Oh boy, I got him now." Of course, the only reason Dubya would know the Mexican Foreign Minister's name is because he's the governor of the state with the longest border to Mexico.
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Andy F - 02:09 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #39 of 345
Gore 50,996,064 votes - Bush 50,456,167 votes - Difference: Gore +539,897 votes.

The worst thing W did was to praise the coup in Pakistan for bringing "stability". This is like praising Mussolini for making the trains run on time.

The former President of Pakistan may have been unpopular, but dictatorships are inherently UNSTABLE. The best thing that could have been done to bring greater stability was to wait for the next election and let the Pakistani people vote the guy out.

The fact that W thinks dictatorships bring stability says a lot about him and the attitude he will bring if he become President of OUR country.
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They should have asked Bush about the nuclear situation in Pakistan and India and whether he agrees with many folks in the CIA that we should provide both countries with technology to accurately spot nuclear launches.

(The CIA argues this because right now it would be easy for one country or the other to mistakenly think a missile had been launched. A jet straying over the other country could do it. A factory disaster such as the one at Union Carbide at Bhopal could be mistaken for a nuclear attack.)
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If Bush did NOT know the foreign minister of a country with which his state shares a huge border, then it would be time to put him in the same class as Dan Quayle.
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Wonder when Daddy Shrub will threaten to sue the reporter and the paper. There ought to be limits to freedoms, ya know.
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A brilliant satire on the whole thing.
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Back in May 1998 when India and Pakistan conducted their nuclear tests, President Clinton made numerous remarks that exhibited a detailed understanding of the psychology of the leaders of the two countries. He was ridiculed by the adulterer, George Will, for talking about India's "wounded inner child".

Fortunately for the world, President Clinton was more interested in defusing a potential nuclear war the earning browine points from the adulterous George Will.

While the US media may shrug off Shrub's stupidity, the foreign media is not. Dated Link
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Steve M. - 02:50 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #45 of 345
2/14: The Village Voice names OutKast's "Stankonia," featuring "B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)," album of the year. 2/16: George W. Bush, desperate to prove he's cooler than Bill Clinton, drops bombs near Baghdad. Coincidence?

The worst thing W did was to praise the coup in Pakistan for bringing "stability".

As Al Gore was quick to point out.

But wait, folks! Time magazine, continuing its pro-GOP spin (mere days after Naomigate), has decided for us that Shrub's terrifying ignorance just doesn't matter! Even though the magazine points out,

perhaps more alarmingly, that Bush's foreign policy adviser Joel Shinn hadn't known all four answers

The most alarming thing about this is that we're in a situation I never thought would really be possible, even in my bleakest moments: in effect, Dan Quayle is now the front-runner in the race for the White House. Dig your fallout shelters now!
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Oh, are we electing a President, or a Presidency by Committee of Special Advisors??

I'm sure the comments from our allies and enemies abroad are going to be rather fulsome over this GW Quiz flunk. Since we are the strongest of the nations in the free world, they take our elections and our potential leaders very seriously.And I would imagine they're chewing on their fingernails right now over the responses of the candidate leading in the polls.
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Wow, Food Stamp! You sure you ain't working as a Bush spinmeister?

Food Stamp - 11:27am Nov 5, 1999 PST (# 28 of 46) Okay, then!

I watched the ambush interview of Bush by the Democrat reporter.

So a tough bunch of questions is a politically motivated 'ambush'?

What impressed me was that the Bush people knew this reporter was a staunch left-winger and has a reputation for unethical ambush interviews of Republicans. They sent Bush in anyway knowing what would happen. I can only wonder if it is their way of giving him some "trial by fire".

Attack the questioner. Make the whole embarrassing episode look like it was planned by the Bush handlers. Suuuure. With friends like that, ......

None of the political talking heads (left or right) were able to answer the same questions on television this morning. Neither Bill Clinton nor anyone in his administration asked on TV was able to answer the questions (depth varied by foreign experience). Bush could have been a little more tactful, though. I felt like he revealed a kind of mean streak by enjoying the snapping at a "little" man.

He also revealed his ignorance of foreign affairs. Had this been the first example of this, people could shrug it off- after all the questions could be considered tough. But it's not, which indicates to me that he doesn't care to make the effort to learn. In addition, by not being able to find an easy 'out' to this line of questioning he exhibits a total lack of ability to think on his feet. He'd better stay out of debates and keep to the script his handlers have written for him.
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Steve M. - 03:44 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #48 of 345
2/14: The Village Voice names OutKast's "Stankonia," featuring "B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)," album of the year. 2/16: George W. Bush, desperate to prove he's cooler than Bill Clinton, drops bombs near Baghdad. Coincidence?

The VRWC spin machine has now gone into overdrive:

Bush Calls Quiz 'Gotcha' Journalism

By CALVIN WOODWARD Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Texas Gov. George W. Bush calls it ``gotcha'' journalism - the setup designed to trip him up. The latest episode raises the issue of whether it's fair to ask questions intended to embarrass more than enlighten.

Politicians have been bedeviled in the past by questions on the price of milk, the location of Bosnia, a phantom county in Illinois and why they want to be president. Now Bush has flubbed a mini-quiz revealing he could not name leaders in three of four trouble spots.

While the media are sometimes torn over when it's right to investigate a politician's personal behavior, policy questions are usually a cinch in weighing journalistic ethics: Anything goes.

But Wednesday surprise test by Andy Hiller, political reporter for WHDH-TV in Boston, has some media-watchers wondering if even fact-driven questioning can go too far....

Fact-driven questioning can go too far? You mean asking whether someone who wants a job has the qualifications to do it is unfair?

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Freedom of the press is only for the one who owns a press.

Creepy, ain't it?
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jim coil - 05:26 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #53 of 345
If "it's" in the News; it is either a fabrication, exaggeration, distortion, or bald-face lie. Take your pick.

The fat, the lazy, the losers - media slugs jealous of Hiller, taking orders from their bosses, don't attack our Bush/CIA man.

I've been looking for the abridged Bill of Rights - wonder if Hatfiled has a copy - the one that says; there ought to be limits to freedoms. Republikan felons are allowed to write books after they get out of prison - but not Democrats or anyone who attacks the reich-wing establishment. Hatfield is failed.
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Once again, the point is not whether Dubya knew the name of the leader of Chechnya. The point is that the answers he did give left the impression of not only cluelessness but I-don't-care-and-why-should-I?

Just the comment about a military coup bringing stability should be enough to disqualify the man for President (thanks to whoever it was who brought up the comparison to praising Musollini for keeping the trains running on time).

I just caught a few minutes of Hardball before I came on and the panel was basically universal in saying that the questions were not innapropriate and that he should have been able to answer them better. Not necessarily that he should have known the specific answers but that he should have been able to use the questions as an opportunity to demonstrate his knowledge of the particular affairs (Checnya, China/Taiwan, India/Pakistan). It was on that that he failed.

AP:

Politicians have been bedeviled in the past by questions on the price of milk, the location of Bosnia, a phantom county in Illinois and why they want to be president. Now Bush has flubbed a mini-quiz revealing he could not name leaders in three of four trouble spots.

Excuse me, but what is wrong with asking a candidate why he wants the office? In fact, I consider that probably one of the most important questions any candidate should be able to answer. Bob Dole failed spectacularly on this in 1996 when his answered appeared, for all intents and purposes, to be "because it's my turn."

Why does Dubya want to be President?
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How long can the media cover for this moron?

My God, you'd think that the brighter GOP waterboys and girls in the Fourth Estate would have realized now what Matt Drudge apparently has: that the sooner Shrub is taken out of the race, the better off the Republican Party will be.

But NOOOOOOOO.

This will only accelerate the rush to online sources like the Consortium and the Daily Howler and Salon and Online Journal. SOMEBODY has to fill the hard-news vacuum!
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TLB-in-MN - 06:00 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #56 of 345

From Wonder Who's link - The Hindu newspaper:

Bush Jr.'s pat for Musharraf

By Sridhar Krishnaswami

WASHINGTON, NOV. 5. The Pakistani military leader, Gen. Parvez Musharraf, may not exactly like the way the Republican frontrunner referred to him but must be quite flattered by Mr. George W Bush's ``assessment'' of the coup that he pulled off recently.

``The new Pakistani General, he's just been elected - not elected, this guy took over office. It appears this guy is going to bring stability to the country and I think that's good news for the sub-continent,'' the Texas Governor said in a television interview in his State.

Mr. Bush was asked to name the top leader in power in three countries and a Russian Republic undergoing serious trouble in the recent past. He was asked to name the leaders of Taiwan, India and Pakistan. The Texas Governor failed to answer three out of the four, and came away apparently partly correct on the fourth - he had the ``Lee'' part of Mr. Lee Teng-hui of Taiwan correct.

Mr. Bush could not name the Pakistani General who seized power and instead referred to him as ``this guy'', but at the same time believed that the coup had brought forth ``stability'' to Pakistan, a perception strongly disputed from within the Clinton administration and outside.

Mr. Bush's spokesman, arguing that the person running for President was seeking to be the leader of the free world and not a jeopardy contestant - a television gameshow - said that Mr. Bush was not endorsing the coup but was stating his interpretation of events as they stand.

Mr. Bush's Communications Director, Ms. Karen Hughes said Gen. Musharraf had said that he was committed to reinstating democratically elected government and he seems to have brought stability to a country that had been in turmoil and that ``Governor Bush hopes he's committed to keeping that promise''.

Mr. Bush's ``performance'' in an impromptu foreign affairs quiz is indicative of where the focus is on the national campaigns right now which is pretty much skewed towards domestic issues and problems.

Even if the leading Republican candidate had all the ``right'' foreign policy advisors and staff, including perhaps some talking to him on the Indian sub-continent, the bottom line is how much time the candidate is willing to spend listening to what is being said on foreign affairs.

And even his own foreign-policy advisor admitted that he himself couldn't answer those four questions.

Not only is Shrub ignorant, but so are his handlers.
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The good news is that GW's interview has been broadcast by outlets like CNN and other cable news networks, who have re-broadcast his interview live, so viewers can draw their own conclusions. These live, unedited broadcasts can't help Bush.. And more of those broadcasts are coming.
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If Shrub goes down big-time, will all the Repubican faithful(i.e. the non-insiders, rich wannabe's) be really pissed that they got conned into backing such a jerk?
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Chuck Meyer - 06:18 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #59 of 345
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imginary"--Mencken

On MSNBC tonight, Paul Begala suggested that Bush had been briefed on such things, was warned he could face this kind of question-test, but chose instead, in the words of Begala, to 'let it go in one ear and out the other.'

The distance between the Governor's ears is something akin to the Holland Tunnel.

Chris Anderson

the only reason Dubya would know the Mexican Foreign Minister's name is because he's the governor of the state with the longest border to Mexico.

And of course Bush never did offer the name of the foreign minister, so lets not give him too much credit on this one:)

He gets a half-point for replying (guessing?) "Lee" on Taiwan.

If only the Guv had been asked the President of Argentina; he and daddy played golf with him in Austin a few months back, and I'm damn sure he could remember that far back.
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I think the only reason he lucked out and guessed the "Lee" is that he must have been thinking of the name of the Chinese Restaurant, "Lee Ho Fung's", referenced in that brilliant policy document, Warren Zevon's Werewolves of London.

Meanwhile, David Corn chimes in. He feels, rightly, that the scariest thing about this affair is not so much that Shrub is clueless and unable to even pull off a flip Reaganesque comment, but that his advisors are just as clueless as he is, if not more so:

<www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/11/05/bush/index.html>
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The Guv, it would seem, has two choices here:

A....study up on his international affairs

B...fire his international advisors.

Which one do YOU think he'll choose?
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I'm still in shock that Chris Matthews of Hardball actively DISSED him over this.

How long will it take for the GOP to realize that they can't keep even their own bought-and-paid-for media prosties silent over Shrub's boobery forever?
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Cheap shot, lefties

You should know, kl.
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Audrey M. Regan - 07:07 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #64 of 345

Hmm, I wonder if George Bush, Jr. knows who the Prime Minister of Canada is ... Canada being America's biggest trading partner and all.

I saw the interview. I agree with Geraldine Ferraro who said, "As candidates we all know our weak areas. George should have done some studying and made very sure he couldn't be trapped this way."

BTW, I knew three of the four leaders by name - only because, since my operation, my family bought me subscriptions to everything printed and published on the face of the earth!

Bad one George. Don't let it happen again or your goose is cooked.
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Why waste your time boning up on international news when you can score points back-slapping the Texas school principle who sent a 7th grader to jail for a week for his Halloween essay?

Whenever the Governor has had a bad day on the campaign trail, he can always cheer himself up by flying home and signing another fistfull of death warrants.
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Several points:

1. G.W. should have been much more aware of the who the leaders of the countries that are such international hot points are regardless of his claim of being a 'big picture' guy.

2. Reporter Andy Hiller is allowed not to know information outside of the area of his interview. He is the one asking the questions, not the one trying to show his qualifications to be President. Since G.W. is Governor of Texas and Texas a major border state to Mexico and one of its primary trading partners, I would hope that he knows who the Foreign Minister is.

3. In G.W.'s defense, Hiller, who is a well thought of local political reporter, works for WHDH Channel 7 in Boston, the NBC affiliate. WHDH is owned by Sunbeam Communications of Miami as sleazy a news operation as you would like to meet. They practice tabloid style broadcasting for the attention deficit disorder crowd, heavy on violence, and garish, bloody graphics. Andy Hiller was employed by the previous owners and has managed to survive in this environment when most others have long since departed by adapting his style to theirs.
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Just imagine the Bush-Gore debates.

Bush will be bloodied: The "Blood and Gore" debates! Can't wait!
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I saw some Republican congressman on Hannity & Colmes earlier tonight saying that all that really matters is that Dubya is for a strong defense and that whether he knows the names of certain foreign leaders is irrelevent (not his exact words, but that's the general gist of his comment). In other words, Dubya represents that wing of the GOP (such as Jesse Helms, et. al) that don't consider foreign affairs important because, well, there all just foreigners after all.
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W.W. Dimmitt - 08:23 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #69 of 345
Be compassionate, join FUBAR today! (Faith in Unknown, But Awful, Religions)

This is the third or fourth article in the WP that has been progressivley negative about g dumbya:

Should a presidential candidate be required to know the heads of Pakistan, India, Taiwan and Chechnya? Maybe so, maybe not. This much is certain: The way George W. Bush handled his pop quiz on foreign policy suggests he's still not ready for the tests ahead.

"Wait. Wait. Is this 50 questions?" a flustered Bush asked the Boston television reporter who posed four surprise questions. The Republican front-runner got one name right, admitted he didn't know the other three, and fumbled on the crisis in Pakistan.

And he looked badly doing it, glaring off camera after dressing down the interviewer with a convoluted rebuke – his jaw clenched in anger or frustration.

<www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/19991105/aponline174825_000.htm>
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I believe the Bubble Boy had his bubble burst yesterday.

Do you always consider asking questions of such obvious relevance to our foreign policy to constitute an "ambush," Food Stamp? I guess you consider all unscreened questions where the answer cannot be taught to George W. Bush by rote to be "ambushes." Most people who keep abreast of current events through such highly technical and complex methods as, for example, occasionally reading the major stories in their morning paper could have answered those questions better than did George W. Bush.

This is playing BEAUTIFULLY on TV all over the country, showing Bush's confused face and glassy eyes in a state of utter consternation. I LOVED the Pakistan question, where he answered, "General General General General" (what a GREAT political spot ad that's going to make!) and then proclaimed that the military coup that overturned a democratically elected government provided "stability."

It's been a good day for the good guys.

George W. Bush did not know the name of the leader of the second most populous nation on Earth, for crissakes. Most people who are even cursorily familiar with foreign affairs do.

Chuck Meyer, when George W. Bush begins extemporaneously "outlining the respective scenarios" things get REALLY comical. The guy really has no clue.

But what do you expect from a guy who brags that he doesn't read books but knows people who do?

TLB, I think that perhaps Bush's foreign policy advisors are teaching George W. Bush the international nuances of "See Spot run. Run, Spot, run." You have to start somewhere.

George W. Bush probably knows the name of the Mexican foreign minister because he served as his dope connection.

I now believe what I once thought impossible: There is a candidate for the presidency of the United States who makes Dan Quayle appear intelligent and well-informed by comparison. This is a most alarming turn of events.

Personally I think "Lee" was a lucky guess. If I were to make a guess at a Taiwanese name that's what I'd say.

TLB, this time the media's not covering for him. Like I said up top, I think his bubble is now burst. This is playing prime time big time.

I can't WAIT for Georgie to have a temper tantrum on camera. It is only a matter of time.
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Georgie Dumbja...someone posted this and I just want to practice writing it......Geo. Dumbja
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Catburglar - 11:00 pm PST - Nov 5, 1999  - #72 of 345

His handlers will work all the harder to make sure he has no chance or need to ad lib from now through next November.

You know this boy won't debate. Krijeezies, he wouldn't even chance that Town Hall Meeting.
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Just in case you were wondering if Clinton was up on his world leaders
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If Dumbya won't debate, TAKE IT TO HIM! The more evasive he gets, the more he should be pursued.

McCain should be taking advantage of this right now. It's his chance to PROVE he's not a partisan hack.

I don't think Dumbya will survive the primaries. He's just too weak. Even a same party candidate with kid gloves on will knock him out.

Such a shame! All that good Republican money the death merchants have thrown at Dumbya down the drain. Pity.
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Dan Quayle is now the front-runner in the race for the White House. Dig your fallout shelters now!

Dan Quayle studied hard to prepare for this election and could probably have answered the questions. I was looking forward to a well-prepared Quayle showing George W Bush up in the primary debates.

Quayle may have suffered a little brain damage when he had that pulmonary embolism (and maybe at birth) but Quayle is still smarter than Bush.

Forget fallout shelters. I read the Indian reaction to the Bush interview in the Hindu newspaper. We're going to die of embarassment.
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Tina Kramer,

The link you posted is to the first positive straight news story about Clinton I've read in a long time.

It showed Clinton in control, funny and smart.

I wonder if the press has been suddenly sobered by the George W Bush performance in Boston.
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W.W. Dimmitt - 05:33 am PST - Nov 6, 1999  - #79 of 345
Be compassionate, join FUBAR today! (Faith in Unknown, But Awful, Religions)

The media has picked up the story big time and they are maintaining the attitude that was struck yesterday, maybe becoming a little more negative, IMO.

In the TV interview aired this week, a flustered and clearly angered Bush could not name the leaders of Chechnya, India and Pakistan.

They are Aslan Maskhadov of Chechnya, Atal Bihari Vajpayee of India and Gen. Pervaiz Musharraf of Pakistan. Bush partially named the leader of Taiwan, president Lee Teng-hui, calling him only ``Lee.''

The governor also appeared to endorse the recent military coup in Pakistan, calling it ``good news for the subcontinent.''

Bush officials said later that he opposes the overthrow of a democratically elected government, but believes the military coup in Pakistan last month has brought stability to South Asia.

<www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/nat/bush11061999.htm>

But I still wonder what the overall effect will be. The polls from this weekend should be very interesting regarding the reaction of the public. g dumbya has gotten tremendous coverage out of this.

Right now his headline count is 74 compared to 22 for Gore and 18 for Bradley. He is getting nearly double their combined coverage today. I sure hope the negative interpretations are coming through to the readership and the viewership.

Do people who watch TV think that the presentation there has been as negative as it has been in print?
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He's not doing real well in the Pakistani press either.

Dated Link

You are in real trouble when you need the Sunday pundits and the New York Times to prevent you from becoming a global object of ridicule.
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I love this thread! It goes right to the heart (stone cold), evil fraud that is G.W. Bush. Compassionate conservatism - please don't kill me, there ought to be limits to freedoms - and the pathetic state of the State of Texas. From the gleeful executions of 1/3 of all of the U.S. executions to Houston taking over the number one slot as the most pollutted city - to the nations only rising state of drug usage to the pathetic social and education decline, all led by one thoroughly stupid jerk - G.W. Bush - a hypocrite on the Newt level.
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What just makes me roll the floor in delighted peals of laughter is the delicious irony! Dubya chose this sort of forum (check ted zep's tagline quoting Poppy telling Larry King that it would be better for Jr. to have one-on-one interviews with someone like Larry rather than debate his competitors?) so he could avoid looking like a dummy when measured against the rest in the field! This interview was supposed to be a showcase for him! And please, you mean to tell me that his advisors didn't shop him to what they thought would be the most "malleable" outlet? ROFLMAO!
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Fred Dawson - 08:08 am PST - Nov 6, 1999  - #83 of 345
Diploney--Insincere words of respect and friendship spoken by politicians and world leaders of one another.

As the movie critics put it, this story has legs. Whatever the biases of the media, the news folk quickly recognized that this gaffe connects with viewers. GW has done what Quayle did spelling 'potatoe', made himself look foolish as well as uninformed. Didn't Bush get any assertiveness training working up to where he is now, and learn how to answer "I don't know" in a way that minimizes the damages? Did he have to show how limited his knowledge was about Pakistan? Or suggest his correct answer on Taiwan was not backed by a lot of knowledge, like what the rest of Lee's name was? Did he get this name because it had fewer syllables than the others and is common in this country? People can forgive a lack of knowledge--they're much harder on looking inept.
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Larry asked, in his most patronizing tone, "So how does it feel to know that you might be the father of two future presidents?"

Bush pere: "Jeb's goo', Jeb's goo'!"

Right Daddy-o, is that all you had to say about the Shrub at those damn fundraisers to get their checkbooks waving like flags?????
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Upthread...

Why does Dubya want to be President? BINGO!

I don't think in the darkness of his lonely room GWB actually has an answer, and it finally is starting to show.

What are the odds if you cornered him, pumped him full of Rebel Yell & Pepsi, and asked him, he would level with you:

"Given my druthers, which my father has never let me had, I'd be running the Texas Rangers, gladhanding the heavy-hitters who own luxury boxes, doing a lot of hunting, and be happy for the first time in my life..."

I used to despise the man -- now I only pity him.
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He was asked that question a few months ago and his answer was, "Because I want to win."

Think about that for a couple seconds.
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Exactly, O Lynx-Eyed One. Circular answer = no answer at all.
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TLB-in-MN - 09:22 am PST - Nov 6, 1999  - #88 of 345

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton shows that he can answer both a complicated math question without using a calculator AND provide the name of the Chechnyan leader simultaneously, within thirty seconds.
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Bush reminds me of that southern idiot that Nixon tried to appoint to the Supreme Court, whose opinions were written in fourth grade English it was discovered.

I think it was Nixon's VP (no brain himself) who conceded that yes, the man was an absolutely mediocre judge, but that was a positive in his favor, since he would represent all the mediocre people in the country who had no representation on the high court.
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G. Harold Carswell. I believe that he was later involved in a typical Republican incident involving a male prostitute, a restroom, and an undercover police officer.
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And while Agnew did indeed support Carswell's appointment, it was Roman Hruska, a waterhead GOP Senator, who made that particular comment.

I'd heard that it was an eight-year-old, not a male prostie. And that the lad wasn't exactly willing to go along with Carswell's blandishments.
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I have always said that Shrub's candidacy would implode because of his cluelessness. Not some deep dark scandal.

The media have always preferred McCain. Because of CFR and because they love the myth of moderate Republicans.

Mark my words, McCain will be beat in part because he is a boor and it will not be possible for the media to conceal this fact.

Kudos to Andy Hiller for breaking with groupthink and making Shrub's cluelessness impossible to ignore.
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Actually, I kinda hope Shrub makes it through the primaries, so that there is a greater chance to put more of his family's dark dealings and CIA Double Life in the spotlight...especially if Pinochet stands trial before the Nov. 2000 elections...

There are questions of International Jurisdiction with regards to Pinochet, I know, but if it's going to happen, I hope some truth comes out, and the fraud that is the Bush family is exposed once and for all...

Too many Americans have this manufactured image of them as the Nice, All-American Family, like they were sealed in a 1950's time capsule and just opened this year...
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Jo Ann Simon - 05:35 pm PST - Nov 6, 1999  - #94 of 345
Free thinker; Independent-minded bitch; Don't even TRY to brainwash me!

I don't want Shrub to win the primary because that will put his money machine too close to orchestrating the next election in his favor. I want him OUT before the primaries, and outed by McCain during the primaries.

I won't vote for McCain, but I see him as the lesser of two evils, and I admire him for bucking against the Republican hardliners on campaign finance reform.

I'm for Gore as the most experienced and capable candidate out there, and I think he would make a great President!
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